Comments for A National Conversation For England http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com A place to debate about the political and constitutional future of England after the end of the present UK Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:25:12 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Conservatives must support a referendum on EU membership by Parliamentary sovereignty won’t protect us from the EU, because it’s already dead « A National Conversation For England http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/the-conservatives-must-support-a-referendum-on-eu-membership/#comment-522 Parliamentary sovereignty won’t protect us from the EU, because it’s already dead « A National Conversation For England Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:25:12 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=154#comment-522 [...] the EU, because it’s already dead Posted on 4 November 2009 by David So I didn’t call it right: I thought David Cameron would at the very least call a referendum to give a Conservative [...] [...] the EU, because it’s already dead Posted on 4 November 2009 by David So I didn’t call it right: I thought David Cameron would at the very least call a referendum to give a Conservative [...]

]]> Comment on Could a vote for the BNP be a good thing? by David http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/could-a-vote-for-the-bnp-be-a-good-thing/#comment-518 David Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:11:01 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-518 Well, maybe not; but if he and the rest of the establishment were scared enough, they might get their act together. Well, maybe not; but if he and the rest of the establishment were scared enough, they might get their act together.

]]> Comment on Could a vote for the BNP be a good thing? by Hendre http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/could-a-vote-for-the-bnp-be-a-good-thing/#comment-517 Hendre Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:45:29 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-517 Do you really think Nick Clegg has the fire in his belly (and a proper disdain for Westminster/Whitehall) for serious constitution reform? I’m not exactly picking up that vibe from him. Do you really think Nick Clegg has the fire in his belly (and a proper disdain for Westminster/Whitehall) for serious constitution reform? I’m not exactly picking up that vibe from him.

]]> Comment on Salmond’s insistence on participating in a leaders’ debate throws the nationalist cat amongst the British pigeons by Ste http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/salmond%e2%80%99s-insistence-on-participating-in-a-leaders%e2%80%99-debate-throws-the-nationalist-cat-amongst-the-british-pigeons/#comment-511 Ste Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:48:41 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=149#comment-511 And no MP elected in Scotland should ever again have any say whatsoever in England's affairs, when the one eyed Scotch communist os evicted by landslide next June,. that will be the start of it, the party is over. Scotland should go on to fulfil its destiny as an "Independent" (ruled from Brussels) country (EU Region) just like the Republic of EUIRE. And no MP elected in Scotland should ever again have any say whatsoever in England’s affairs, when the one eyed Scotch communist os evicted by landslide next June,. that will be the start of it, the party is over.

Scotland should go on to fulfil its destiny as an “Independent” (ruled from Brussels) country (EU Region) just like the Republic of EUIRE.

]]> Comment on Salmond’s insistence on participating in a leaders’ debate throws the nationalist cat amongst the British pigeons by Brian Hill http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/salmond%e2%80%99s-insistence-on-participating-in-a-leaders%e2%80%99-debate-throws-the-nationalist-cat-amongst-the-british-pigeons/#comment-510 Brian Hill Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:38:22 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=149#comment-510 Scotland is Governed partly by laws made in Westminster and pays most of its taxes to Westminster, therefore it's main party, indeed its Government should be represented by it's First Minister in these debates or they should not be shown in Scotland. Scotland is Governed partly by laws made in Westminster and pays most of its taxes to Westminster, therefore it’s main party, indeed its Government should be represented by it’s First Minister in these debates or they should not be shown in Scotland.

]]> Comment on Salmond’s insistence on participating in a leaders’ debate throws the nationalist cat amongst the British pigeons by Brian Hill http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/salmond%e2%80%99s-insistence-on-participating-in-a-leaders%e2%80%99-debate-throws-the-nationalist-cat-amongst-the-british-pigeons/#comment-509 Brian Hill Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:35:42 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=149#comment-509 and therefore, by definition, is not a candidate for PM....... What? And Clegg is???? and therefore, by definition, is not a candidate for PM…….

What? And Clegg is????

]]> Comment on English Democrats: Are the BBC taking the monkeys; or do they just not give a monkeys? by Salmond’s insistence on participating in a leaders’ debate throws the nationalist cat amongst the British pigeons « A National Conversation For England http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/english-democrats-are-the-bbc-taking-the-monkeys-or-do-they-just-not-give-a-monkeys/#comment-508 Salmond’s insistence on participating in a leaders’ debate throws the nationalist cat amongst the British pigeons « A National Conversation For England Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:47:01 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=143#comment-508 [...] about who should be the prime minister of Britain”. But this is only true in the case of one of the three main meanings of the word ‘Britain’ in contemporary political discourse: when it means ‘England’. It would indeed be [...] [...] about who should be the prime minister of Britain”. But this is only true in the case of one of the three main meanings of the word ‘Britain’ in contemporary political discourse: when it means ‘England’. It would indeed be [...]

]]> Comment on The Labour Party will never fulfil its calling with Gordon Brown at the helm by Hendre http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/the-labour-party-will-never-fulfil-its-calling-with-gordon-brown-at-the-helm/#comment-506 Hendre Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:36:24 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-506 “Doubtless, the Party expected to be able to continue to rule Scotland and Wales as its fiefdoms: exercising control over policy from London and being elected into power in perpetuity, having ’seen off’ the nationalist threat through devolution” That makes the Labour Party sound more homogenous than it was/is. Some in Welsh Labour (Ron Davies chiefly) could see that the social and working environment which had sustained the Labour vote was fast receding into the past and that the party was atrophying as a result of historic one-partyism. I believe he was genuinely convinced of the case for ‘new politics’, involving PR, which would revitalise Welsh politics and, in turn, Welsh Labour, rather than trying to plot some desperate attempt to cling to power. Shame he took that walk ... Ron also suggested that the British Labour Party should become federalised, which would have allowed an English Labour element to develop. One of Gordon Brown’s problems with accountability is that New Labour has dismantled the old, unwieldy policy-making machinery of the party. Such a machinery could have legitimised policy announcements for England by a Scottish Prime Minister but New Labour couldn’t bring itself to trust the Cabinet, let alone the party, for its policy decisions. “Doubtless, the Party expected to be able to continue to rule Scotland and Wales as its fiefdoms: exercising control over policy from London and being elected into power in perpetuity, having ’seen off’ the nationalist threat through devolution”

That makes the Labour Party sound more homogenous than it was/is. Some in Welsh Labour (Ron Davies chiefly) could see that the social and working environment which had sustained the Labour vote was fast receding into the past and that the party was atrophying as a result of historic one-partyism. I believe he was genuinely convinced of the case for ‘new politics’, involving PR, which would revitalise Welsh politics and, in turn, Welsh Labour, rather than trying to plot some desperate attempt to cling to power. Shame he took that walk … Ron also suggested that the British Labour Party should become federalised, which would have allowed an English Labour element to develop.

One of Gordon Brown’s problems with accountability is that New Labour has dismantled the old, unwieldy policy-making machinery of the party. Such a machinery could have legitimised policy announcements for England by a Scottish Prime Minister but New Labour couldn’t bring itself to trust the Cabinet, let alone the party, for its policy decisions.

]]> Comment on The Labour Party will never fulfil its calling with Gordon Brown at the helm by Philip R Hosking http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/the-labour-party-will-never-fulfil-its-calling-with-gordon-brown-at-the-helm/#comment-505 Philip R Hosking Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:23:04 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-505 Endangered species - The 'Cornish' Labour Party: http://cornishzetetics.blogspot.com/2009/09/endangered-species-cornish-labour-party.html Endangered species – The ‘Cornish’ Labour Party: http://cornishzetetics.blogspot.com/2009/09/endangered-species-cornish-labour-party.html

]]> Comment on The Labour Party will never fulfil its calling with Gordon Brown at the helm by David B. Wildgoose http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/the-labour-party-will-never-fulfil-its-calling-with-gordon-brown-at-the-helm/#comment-503 David B. Wildgoose Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:08:42 +0000 http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/?p=145#comment-503 Fantastic article, well argued and well said. Fantastic article, well argued and well said.

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